Some thoughts on Twitters new ReTweet feature

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This morning I woke up to find this on my Twitter homepage:

Twitter / Home - RETWEET

I was immediately psyched. I’ve been a fan of retweets for a while and one of the main reasons I’ve continued to use TweetDeck despite it’s buggyness is how flawless it handles retweets. And after the awesome launch of ‘lists’ I instantly assumed Twitter was on a roll of bad ass feature launch-i-tude.

And then I saw it in action. (cue sad trombone)

This was not my beautiful house. This was not my beautiful wife. This was not my beautiful retweet.

I tried to give Twitter the benefit of the doubt and see if perhaps they had a better version of it. I used it several times myself and paid attention to how other people were using it. But I didn’t get used to it and as the day went on I got more and more bummed out by it. I kept thinking about what to say in the post I wanted to write about it but before I got a chance to write anything someone directed me to this post by Ev explaining why they did some of what they did and the problems they were trying to solve. It’s definitely worth reading – I assumed a lot of thought must have gone into some of the choices they made and this post confirms that – I just don’t agree.

Now before someone else points it out let me be the first to say that I hated when Twitter revamped replies but after using it a bit I was convinced it was in fact a better way of doing things. Maybe because I don’t like to think I’m going to be wrong, but I don’t see this being a similar situation that would allow me to flip flop.

That said, Ev gives detailed reasoning for why they implemented retweet the way they did in his post. He points out problems, that I agree exist, and how this version of retweet will work to fix them. I just don’t think many of those reasons are valid. To some extent I think their decisions were a bit reactionary – addressing something that some people were complaining about. Unfortunately I think it was a small number of people complaining and a large number of people who didn’t have a problem, but the fix changed that -making the small number happy and upsetting a larger group that had previously been silent on the matter. That is just what I think from scanning my twitter stream and some searches thoughout the day but admittedly I could be completely wrong as it’s just a guess.

So what are my issues. I have a few.

(Just to make things clear I’ll use OldRetweet when talking about how retweets have been handled up until now, and NewRetweet when referring to Twitter’s implementation.)

The biggest problem I have is the issue with the avatars. Oddly enough this is the issue that is brushed over the quickest in Ev’s post. With OldRetweets I’d see the avatar of the person I was following, with NewRetweets I see the avatar of the person who originally posted the tweet.

This change was made to address the problem with attribution in retweets. I completely agree this is a problem that needs a solution – especially on something that is getting heavily retweeted. I’ve seen plenty of cases where, due to the 140 character limit, people have had to delete some text in order to retweet something and instead of deleting the name of the person who retweeted it, they delete the name of the person who originally wrote it which makes it seem like someone else wrote it. This is a problem for sure. And like others I’ve had people reply to me thinking I was the author of something I retweeted. Again, no question that this is a problem that needs a solution.

While this solution does solve the attribution problem, there is no question who wrote something anymore, it creates a bunch of new problems which I think outweigh the old one. Here’s what we have now:

New Retweets

Seeing icons and usernames in my stream of people I don’t follow, even with the addition of a little “retweet” icon does not create a richer, fuller experience for me. It instantly makes me assume Twitter is broken and somehow people I don’t follow are showing up in my stream. It’s jarring and uncomfortable. Ev suggests there is no value in having the icon of the person you follow in a retweet but I completely disagree. Seeing the icon of someone I follow, someone I’m familiar with, instantly puts the retweet in context. Is the person regularly sarcastic which might imply the retweet is a joke, is the retweet a link to an article covering a topic this person usually tweets about which would give me an idea of the slant of the article, is the retweet from someone I follow because I respect and trust their opinion or is it a retweet from someone I’m friends with but don’t always agree with or from someone I follow because they constantly opposing my viewpoints and I want to hear their side of the story as well. Seeing the icon of the person I follow tells me a lot about the tweet and why they likely felt the need to retweet it before I ever read it. Seeing the icon of someone I don’t follow, don’t know, and have no context for confuses me.

When I use the search function I’m expecting a results page full of people I don’t know, but as I said in my post about ‘lists’ I think of my main page as my home and I feel like NewRetweet just brought a bunch of uninvited guests in to my living room.

Now certainly those people were being brought in before, but having my friends avatar there was like someone vouching for them right away. Without it they feel like strangers and it’s very uncomfortable. And while there is a credit line to let me know which person I follow is responsible for the retweet, it’s small and stuck at the end after a line I ignore most of the time. I mean really, unless I’m actively wondering at what time someone posted a tweet I never read the “posted XX ago via…” line because I don’t care how many minutes ago or with what client the person used. If something comes up where I need to know it’s helpful, but generally I ignore it. Now I have to either read a retweet and then purposely go read this credit line to think back and put what I just read in context, or I have to train myself that if I see the retweet icon I have to skip to the end to see who retweeted it and then jump back to the front to read it. Both are totally annoying options considering I got the same info before completely passively by seeing the avatar of the person I follow before I read the retweet.

Also, though out the day I found my self wishing I could block retweets from someone. Not a block of any retweets from a person I follow, but a block preventing anyone I follow from showing me retweets of a particular user. What I mean is if I follow Jack, Jill and Sally I don’t want to stop seeing anything they retweet, I just want to stop seeing anytime they retweet something from Tom. This is a new problem because while Jack, Jill and Sally may have been retweeting Tom like crazy before it was easier to ignore. It felt like a friend quoting someone else, where as now it feels like they brought the person along to tell me themselves. It’s much more abrasive.

And while it’s great that there is more control and granularity by allowing me to turn on or off retweets from each and every person I follow that is a lot of work and it’s an all or nothing option which is stressful to make. Sure that last retweet was annoying but if I block them maybe I’ll miss out on something really great tomorrow.

Overall I just think this solution to the attribution problem is a huge mess that made more problems than it solved.

The next issue I have is what Ev calls Redundancies. This would be the issue of several of your friends all retweeting the same thing. I can see where this would be annoying for some people, especially for people who follow a lot of people in the same circle and the echo chamber effect kicks in. Yes Merlin Mann is funny but I don’t need 73 of the people that I follow all retweeting the same clever thing he just tweeted about poop. And it’s even worse is 42 people I follow all retweet something by someone they all think is hilarious and I think is retarded. So again, yes this is a problem but the solution of only letting you see something once causes another problem – when someone you follow retweets something by someone else you follow you never see that retweet.

I tested this specifically 3 times today and it’s definitely the case. This sucks because unfortunately I don’t get to read every single tweet by every single person I follow – sometimes because I’m too busy or sometimes because a buggy 3rd party app drops tweets. Luckily a lot of the people I follow also follow other people I follow and can draw attention to the frequent gems they spit out, and very often I see a great tweet from someone I follow not when they wrote it, but when someone else I follow retweeted it. That no longer happens, and that sucks.

I was really annoyed that you can’t annotate the tweet before it is retweeted but Ev says that is something they will likely be changing very soon so I’ll skip the rant on that and trust they know how important of an option that is.

Those things really bother me, but what bothers me even more is the old way, that while it certainly has it’s problems, is now going to become considerably harder to do. Ev says:

Also, old-school retweets are still allowed, as well. We had to prioritize some use cases over others in this release. But just as Twitter didn’t have this functionality at all before, people can still work around and do whatever they want. This just gives another option.

But earlier in the post he says:

In an announcement a few weeks ago to get developers building new RT functionality into their clients, we released some preliminary mockups showing how the new Retweet functionality might work on twitter.com. (I’ve read a couple times today that we’re apparently keeping this feature only for twitter.com, which is exactly wrong. Most of the clients are working on incorporating it presently.)

This means developers are working on *replacing* the OldRetweet functions they currently have with NewRetweet. Keep in mind that the reason OldRetweet is even in those clients is because so many people were using it and begging for it to be added to the clients. I can’t imagine any of the dominate clients are going to have two options allowing you to choose which style of retweet you want to use. They will simply adopt the method supported by Twitter forcing anyone who wants to do it another way to do it by hand again. This also sucks.

But all this asside I think the biggest issue here, and the thing that bothers me the most, is Twitter has a long history of keeping things simple, watching how people use them, listening to feedback, and implementing a next step which trusts that the users know how they want to use the platform. As someone who works with groups and communities and users all the time I know that the combined efforts of users will figure something out much better and more efficiently than a few people staring at the problem in an office. There is no question that the vast majority of Twitter users have come to agreement on how a retweet should work. This implementation by Twitter feels like they saw that but then said “thanks for coming up with that feature, but you are wrong and here’s the way it should work” and while they have every right to decide how they want to implement everything as a user this doesn’t make me feel very good. Something simple that I really liked was just purposefully made different and more difficult.

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  1. corey says:

    agree on all points, Sean. I do not like seeing avatars of people i do not choose to follow appearing in my stream. This was a poor decision at twitter, it creates a feed that i didn’t choose to build. Which brings me to the meat of my comment: Twitter re-vamped something that was fully completely created by it’s users (mostly the early adapters). The entire feature itself was built upon the implicit need by users to share information within the platform. There were no boundaries, so people created their own. The incredible part about twitter is, this is how it grew, it became so maleable for so many of its users, and only the apps drew lines in the sand around features. I don’t want twitter to clean up the retweet process (which they didn’t create) but to instead fix that messy backend. Been fail-whaling since the list rollout. fix twitter, not the features that don’t exist. Now they have two new features to manage, plus all the same problems as before.

    or maybe i just need coffee.

  2. corey says:

    drat, i forgot one thing in my comment: the meat of web2.0 is option. as a “web2.0″ tool or at least one that was built in this epoch of the digital era, is in the opt-in. Choices. Feeds are great because you create and opt and choose. the retweet feature removes choice from my twitter stream, i have to re-adjust all my previous choices and make even MORE decisions about how to use what may actually be the most simple platform to emerge in quite some time. i do need coffee, but i also do think twitter is not keeping it simple. they are forcing me to make new choices about the choices i already made and felt confident about.

  3. Ram Singh says:

    They could make the avatar issue a bit better by showing a smaller avatar of the retweeter overlaying the avatar of the original tweeter – the way they do for replies on Twitter search..

  4. Andrew Hyde says:

    This morning @electromute used retweet function to retweet a guy saying he thought he was pregnant.

    http://twitpic.com/p4xye

    Her mom read it. The UI is not at all obvious in situations like that… looks like she said it.

    Can’t wait for more weird stuff to happen…

  5. Summer says:

    Very good points that I hadn’t thought about — and I agree. For example, Laughing Squid referenced your post. I read it because I respect their opinion. (They didn’t retweet – but I took the time to go to your site because of them.) Thanks.
    Just one request? Please don’t use “retarded” as a derogatory term, I’ve worked with some wonderful people and an organization who helps them get suitable paying employment and life skills. It’s a pleasure and a gift to know them. Thank you for your consideration of this.

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  7. Christina Xu says:

    Excellent points. I’d like to add one more: the huge problem that you can no longer provide your own commentary on retweets. Fine and dandy for about 50% of my retweets, which are just to pass something along, but I often find that I have commentary or at least a reaction to add. Losing that ability makes me feel so much more like a passive, helpless consumer rather than someone who is engaging, albeit with only a few words, in a larger dialogue. Perhaps worse, it encourages mindless retweeting, which has the dangerous potential of turning Twitter into the mainstream media an echo chamber with little original thought.

  8. Sean Bonner says:

    @Christina Xu – I mentioned that and so did Ev in his post actually, it’s something they plan to include and just didn’t get done in time for this launch so I didn’t spend much time talking how they should implement something they are saying straight out that they are planning to implement.

  9. woot says:

    I still use the OLD RT way. I hate this new function. Not being able to add your own commentary and seeing other people’s RTs is annoying.

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  12. Cody Simms says:

    Yahoo! Meme does “re-posting” very nicely. Check it out if you haven’t.
    http://meme.yahoo.com

  13. Sara Rosso says:

    I totally agree – I had the new RT feature for a few hours yesterday and it jarred me to see icons of people I don’t follow in my stream. I pay more/less attention to a RT because of whom, among the people I FOLLOW, is passing along the information – NOT who is the owner of the original Tweet.

  14. Joel Hughes says:

    Hi,
    great article.

    Bear in mind that it is a fairly trivial task for Twitter clients to put the Avatar of the retweeter in your timeline rather than the source.

    My biggest bug bear is that lack of comment/annotation. I can really see why it’s been done (ie to preserve the integrity) but the comment can be very useful. I can only assume they’ll allow comments via some sort of 2ndry attached tweet.

    Joel

  15. Sean Bonner says:

    Hi Joel- You are mistaken actually, Ev clearly states that comment/annotation was not included only for simplicity of this roll out and it’s absolutely a feature they plan to add.

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  17. Actually, Sean… Ev was less ‘absolute’ about adding the annotation ability than you make it sound…

    But we have some ideas there, and it’s possible we’ll build that in at a later date.

    Sounds like a maybe to me, which makes me think it’s important to let them know how much we absolutely DO want that ability. But, as Ev said, we can always go back to copy and paste methods…. and they wonder why their site traffic is stagnant… with third party apps allowing us to use Twitter the way we want, their efforts to bring us back to the site are not working. I just hope Seesmic doesn’t get rid of the RT button lol… copy and paste RTs would aggravate me! haha

  18. Sean Bonner says:

    Ginger, sure but that backs up statements from others at Twitter that it’s something they are working on. It’s certainly not something they are working against like most of the other changes they made.

    That said, it should be noted that they pulled the ReTweet feature yesterday because of “bugs” – what that means we don’t know but it’s not currently online for anyone so maybe they will make some changes before putting it back in place.

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  20. Lisa says:

    Today I discovered that in the new system re-tweets even from people I’ve blocked show up – which is really disconcerting to see their avatar and name. “Wait, didn’t I block you? What are you doing here? Oh, it’s a re-tweet. Shouldn’t that be selected out?” Seems poorly implemented.

    And I agree overall – I think it was a small number of people complaining loudly

  21. Marie Carnes says:

    I agree with Lisa. Tonight, someone I previously blocked showed up in my timeline. You’d think Twitter would at least respect previous blocks with their new retweet scheme.

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  23. i’ve been searching around my Twitter account for a while now and see not option to stop these retweets .. is there no way around seeing these unwanted tweets in my profile?

  24. Melissa Anderson says:

    Hi Sean,

    Thanks for linking me to this post. I hope you don’t mind me resurrecting the comments thread here.

    I’ve been on twitter for about 3.5 years and also went through these changes when they happened. They bothered me a little bit back then, but I grew used to them and changed my behavior to accommodate the changes, to the point where it’s become second nature. For example, I started paying more attention to the subtle line where the attribution of a retweet lives to see which of my friends were responsible for the retweet. Also, Twitter’s UX and visual design has evolved quite a bit since this post was written and I feel that (among a lot of other features/functions) the quality has improved considerably of their RT function presentation across the design points you brought up.

    While initially I too felt like there were “strangers in my living room” when avatars of people I didn’t follow began to show up in my timeline, I now find that I discover people who I want to follow this way. When I go through the backlog of my own profile I can quickly identify those tweets which I’ve used the twitter RT function to post, and if I see a few tweets from someone that I don’t follow, I will usually follow them to see if everything they say is solid gold.

    I’m wondering if your feelings have changed at all similarly, or if you still feel the way you did when you wrote this post.

  25. Sean Bonner says:

    No, actually they haven’t changed and a slew of changes from Twitter have pushed me even further away. It used to be very important to me and felt personal but now it’s cold and I don’t think that what I as a user think is at all considered by the Twitter team. So in a way this was kind of the first step away from everything I loved about Twitter. But so it goes…

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Sustenance

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A month ago I took an unannounced, largely unplanned vacation with the family to Caribbean Costa Rica. We were there for a week and had less internet connectivity than we expected, but that was made up for by the over abundance of stomach viruses we picked up. I read a lot of books and wrote down a lot of notes. Getting in the place back to LA a week later I felt invigorated and wondered how I would get anything else done with all the writing I planned to do. I was exploding with ideas, and happy to no longer be exploding in other areas.

That was 3 weeks ago.

I’ve barely written a word.

I feel overwhelmed.

Everytime I sit down thinking now I’m going to write some of this stuff I realize I have other deadlines, something else that someone is waiting on, an ever growing todo list.. Then I get stressed and give up on being creative and try to get something else done. Which I actually do, things are getting done, just not the writing I was so excited to get started on several weeks ago. My notebook is sitting there untouched, scowling at me.

I haven’t been entirely unproductive though. I’ve been playing with datamoshing, databending, glitch inducing, pixlesorting, photosounding and a bunch of other weird graphic beautiful errors. Some of that will find it’s way into cmhhtd stuff, so I am glad to have that outlet and looking forward to what may come from it.

I know I juggle a lot of things, and it’s hard to fit everything in. This one is just annoys me because for the first time in a long time the thing I really want to do I can’t. Or rather, I can’t figure out how to. Just yet anyway. I’m confident that I’ll eventually figure out where all the puzzle pieces go, how they fit together. But in the meantime it sucks. I’ve mentioned starting a writing group to a few people – largely in passing, not in any real actionable invitational way – kind of hoping something like that would guilt me into getting something done, but I don’t even know how something like that would work.

I don’t know why I’m even writing this blog post honestly, I just wanted to see some words fill up the screen to make myself feel better before I go back and fold some laundry and figure out how to hang those sun sails outside to block the early morning rays from being converted into laser heat death by our kitchen window.

I’m holding on

I often say that music has been and continues to be incredibly important to me. All of the crucial moments in my life have a soundtrack, either what I was listening to before they happened or what I turned to after the fact to help me get through them. Music has been my rock and my salvation. It’s the only thing I could always count on – no matter what. Lots of people say music is important to them, but without a doubt music changed my life. No, fuck that – music saved my life. I can say with full assurance that if it weren’t for discovering a handful of bands in my early teenage years I wouldn’t be the person I am today. I might not even be here today.

I’d always liked music and as early as 3rd grade I can remember recording songs off the radio with my tape deck so that I could listen to them repeatedly, though admittedly those songs were probably just catchy musically but lacking in substance. Getting a “Weird Al” Yankovich tape for my birthday one year got me listening to lyrics. Before that I think I’d just thought of vocals as another musical element, but trying to understand all the references and jokes “Weird Al” was making made me realize the depth of the content that could be there as well. Discovering Run DMC, Beastie Boys and Public Enemy would take that interest in lyrical content to an entirely new level.

But there was still a disconnect in that those people were rock stars. What they were talking about was obviously important to them, which made it interesting to me. And educational on many levels. But there was always a bit of voyeurism because I could tell from their lyrics and photos that these people were from totally different worlds that I was, and lived very different lives. I didn’t know anything about parties or girls or global politics. I moved around a lot so I didn’t have many close friends and my family didn’t have a lot of money. And as a kid too young to get a job, I had even less. Which is probably why discovering punk rock a few years later was so powerful for me. These people were not rock stars. They didn’t have gold chains, fancy cars, airplanes.. they had jack shit. Just like me. And they often talking about how important friends were, which is something I wanted so much to believe in.

My list of “influential” bands would take days to read though (in fact very early version of my old website had a soundtrack section that listed out just a few of them) but the ones that really grabbed me, changed my world view and pointed my in the right direction is probably three. Three bands. I could easily make that ten. Or twenty without much effort. But if I’m honest about it, really honest about what were the watershed moments, which songs really made a earth shattering difference to me, there’s three of them. Of course that those three existed inside of an ecosystem absolutely bursting with awesomeness helped a lot too.

I’ve written before about trying to kill myself when I was very young, and made references to a whole host of things that kept me mopey and depressed for solid chunk of my childhood. I don’t bring that up to get all emo, but to make the point of just how much impact a few kids in garages out in the world putting words that ment something to them to music, and risking humiliation sent them out into the world could have on me. Continue reading »

Evil Dead 2013

Like anyone with any taste in film I love The Evil Dead. That series is as close to perfect as movie making can be so so many reasons, not the least of which is the obvious fact that the filmmakers (actors included) approach a completely absurd plot as if it’s completely absurd. It works because it’s campy. The horrific gore is kept in check by the humor laced all the way through it. I could watch those films over and over again, enjoy them every time, quote them repeatedly. They are fantastic.

Like anyone with any taste in film when I heard they were going to remake the original Evil Dead I wanted to die before it was released so I wouldn’t have to suffer through seeing yet another classic destroyed by soulless studio execs who have no understanding of what made the original so great and just want to capitalize on an existing brand and a built in fanbase.

And then I started hearing all the whispers. This was not being made by some soulless studio execs who have no understanding of what made the original so great and just want to capitalize on an existing brand and a built in fanbase, but rather the original producers. Both Sam and Bruce were on board with it. It would be faithful to the original. Hell, it might be one of those rare cases where the remake is better (or at least as good) as the original. Could that be true?

I didn’t want to be a jaded fuck and just write it off, even though the trailer was telling me to just write it off. I told myself that maybe that was just the marketing department cutting something together to try and sell it to a different audience who just wanted another boring torture porn flick and would have been just as happy going to see SAW 27 or whatever. I kept telling myself Sam and Bruce say it’s faithful to the original. I kept telling myself to ignore my gut and give it a chance.

So when I heard the other day that a specific screening of the new Evil Dead at Arclight (the best theater ever) would have a personal introduction by Fede Alvarez (director of the new version) I thought, if I’m going to see it this is the time to do that. See what Fede has to say. Keep an open mind. Allow myself to get won over. So I grabbed tickets and went.

I should have trusted by gut.

Fede’s introduction was useless. He could have been introducing 2 hours of static and been more passionate. He didn’t seem to care about the movie, other than saying he made it and that it was really scary. So, right away off to a bad start. It got worse from there.

OK, let’s keep something in mind here: Since Evil Dead came out 30+ years ago in 1981 there have been a lot of movies riffing on the “cabin in the woods” theme. Not the least of which is The Cabin In The Woods. Given how satirical the original is, you can’t remake this film without having some self awareness of how much of a joke the theme is to begin with. Or maybe you can, because that’s what was done here. The things that made the original so great are completely stripped out of this version. There’s nothing funny about the new one. There’s no humor. There’s no soul. It’s a completely run of the mill torture porn movie all the way down to a heavy handed dramatic storyline transparently devised to make you really care about the people, but falling short because it’s so poorly constructed. The “junkie/withdrawal” set up is tossed out the window as soon as they find the book, which makes that entire thing a waste of time.

Now all of this wouldn’t have been so terrible if they had just used the name, a few plot points, and then just made a totally new movie. But instead this is peppered with visual references so you can’t escape the fact they they are shitting all over the genius of the original. I am disappoint.

I don’t know why Sam and Bruce made such a big deal publicly about how “true” this version was, other than to assume they just wanted the paycheck. But that’s a small price to pay for their trust. I certainly won’t believe anything they say about movies again.

And truthfully, I don’t know much my take on this even matters. The theater was filled. People cheered at the gore and blood. They applauded the ever so crappy references to the original – although maybe they did that because they also desperately wanted this to be that, and would jump at any morsel handed to them. I guess time will tell, but I thought it was a piece of crap.

Los Angeles & Tech

Last week Tara and I had the pleasure of grabbing lunch with Bryce Roberts while he was in town scoping things out. Today he posted some notes about Los Angeles and it’s tech scene(s) that I wanted to follow up on because, well, you know I have a lot to say on the subject. If you haven’t read that post you should do that now, as what I have to say will make much more sense given that context.

So just a bit of credentials for anyone who stumbles across this and isn’t already familiar with my LA dedication – In 2003 I, along with Jason DeFillippo, launched Blogging.LA which was certainly the first group blog specifically about Los Angeles, and arguably one of the first group blogs about anything. (It’s funny because it’s common place now, but in 2003 finding a blog with more than one author was rare.) That would morph into Metroblogging and I spent a lot of time over the following years talking to VCs about funding for it. In 2006 I along with a few friends put on the first Barcamp in Los Angeles because we knew there was a vibrant and active tech community here that we felt didn’t know about each other. It was a massive success and there would be 6 successive Barcamps over the next 4 years before it got too big and fragmented into several smaller and more manageable events. In 2009 I instigated the opening of the first public hackerspace in LA which 3 years later is world renowned, award winning, nearing 100 members and has events almost every night of the week. Last year, along with Alex & Tara I help build Represent.LA to once again try and solidify, or at least put a face to the LA tech scene.

I also have 213 tattooed on my finger and LA on my foot.

Somewhat related, I spent much of 2010 on the other side of the VC table, working closely with Neoteny Labs – a fund led by Joi Ito and Reid Hoffman – which gave me a considerable amount of insight about how VCs look at companies, locations, and how they approach deals.

That out of the way – I’m really excited that Bryce has taken an interest in LA. As you can see, I’ve been thinking highly of the place for quite some time. The truth is, the people here in LA know how awesome it is. That’s why we’re here. But most people outside of LA have no idea what is going on here. LA has an image problem in that Hollywood has been really good at making up a fictional version of itself and painting that as LA. I guess people outside of LA don’t understand what fiction is, and assume that the LA they see portrayed on TV and in Movies must be real. It’s not. Hell, Hollywood “the place” doesn’t even have anything to do with Hollywood “the industry.” But, that’s beside the point. Point is if you’ve never spent any time in LA chances are your impression and opinion of the place are dead wrong – but the vast majority of people are happily uninformed. So it’s refreshing to see someone take more than a passing interest.

Bryce spends the first part of his report making LA/NYC comparisons. Which neighborhoods match up and things like that. Which places he thinks are similar is up for debate, but that’s hardly the important part. The gem here is the comprehension that LA is not just one thing. Not just one place. But lots – and I mean a lot – of smaller places with their own personalities all nestled up next to each other. Santa Monica is not LA. Venice is not LA. Hollywood is not LA. Downtown LA is not LA. Silver Lake is not LA. Pasadena is not LA. But the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. This place is giant and every step in every direction is different. This is a good thing and something you have to understand to begin to understand LA.

He notes that there are some great incubators, not a lot of local funding here. Bingo.

This is an excellent observation. In my time hunting for funding for Metblogs I met with a wide variety of both angels and larger VC funds in town – as well as out of town. Not all, but vast majority of VCs and Angels I met with in LA were aggressive, greedy, and very interested in seeing just how many hoops they could get you to jump through. The term sheets I was offered were outright hostile. I met with a lot of people who liked to talk about how much they invested in the local tech scene to try and take credit for anything and everything happening here. Turns out by “investing in the local tech scene” many of these people meant throwing parties or comparing bank accounts with other local investors who valued cashing checks more than investing them.

Needless to say those were not positive experiences. Years later when working with helpful, excited and positive VCs at Neoteny Labs I’d realize just how bad those other deals had been. When I spoke with VCs out of LA I was repeatedly hit with “there’s nothing happening in LA, you’d need to move closer to us before we could consider investing.” Immediate deal breaker.

LA really needs investors who are supportive of both the growing scene and LA itself. There’s a unique atmosphere here that, if nurtured, could produce some incredibly awesome companies. I have no doubt about that at all. Some of the most creative and driven people I’ve met in my entire life have been in LA.

As for the disconnect between Hollywood (the industry) and the LA tech scene, I agree completely that this relationship is underdeveloped. I think a lot of that blame lies on the shoulders of super conservative business advisors, hired by people and companies with expendable income and charged with doing something/anything with that money except losing it. Which makes investing in tech start ups less than attractive. There’s also the thing – when you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. A lot of people in Hollywood (the industry) think the whole world is struggling to be them. So any intermingling with other industries would really just be showing those folks how Hollywood does it. This is where a lot of the content crossover comes from.

That’s not everyone of course, there are some very smart people in Hollywood that have made moves into technology, but largely this has been driven by one person who really gets it, not an industry that understand it. It’s progress, but it’s slow. I think there will need to be some very noteworthy success stories coming from these partnerships to convince others to get their feet wet. I think this will happen, but it won”t be the result of parties, mixers, or networking events. It’ll be because awesome people working on awesome projects get together and do awesome things.

Hollywood (the industry) has the reputation for seeing on failure as a condemnation of an entire theme. If a movie about earthquakes flops, no studio is going to make another one for long time because it can’t be that the movie just sucked, it has to be that people don’t like that theme. And similarly if a movie about zombies does well, you can expect a hundred more zombie movies any minute now – because it can’t be that it was just a good movie, but that people want that theme. We suffer from the same problem in tech. If a site fails – lets say a local product that raised a mountain of cash before even launching a site – then obviously local isn’t viable. It can’t be that it was jut a crappy idea, or poor implementation – it has to be that the theme is bust. And likewise, if something works, get ready for a million copycats. This quickness to accept or reject an idea is harsh on it’s own, but put the two industries together and you get lot of skepticism. Which is why I think when this happens – and I again, I firmly believe it will – it’ll be individual driven. It’s just a question of who those individual will be.

Bryce says that he “can see LA really stepping into it’s own over the next few years” and I think he’s right. I’ve been championing this place for over 10 years now and while I’ve always really liked what was happening here, what I see happening right now is the most exciting it’s ever been. And if people like Bryce and the folks at OATV (among others who have been here recently) are noticing that too, I think it’s more than just local hope.

CMHHTD

“Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in…”

I’ll save you the epic backstory and just say that when I walked away from the music industry in the late 90′s one of the many reasons I chose to do so was because, frankly, it had gotten boring. People (and bands) were just running through the motions. They were executing a prescribed set of actions because that’s just what you do. I missed the days of people doing things because they loved them. Because they thought they were awesome. Because they wanted to be proud of what they were doing. Doing the same thing that you’ve already done, that everyone else has already done, over and over again, isn’t at all fulfilling or interesting to me.

So I left the music world and went to work at this exciting new place, the internet. The music industry had a lot of perks, but it never had lolcats. In the years since then I’ve helped a few friends out with the occasional music project here and there, but I’ve always kept things at arms length because on some level it was the same old thing. It’s was a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there.

These frustrations were echoed in a conversation I had with a few friends last year. We went on to ask ourselves, what does success mean, or even look like if it’s not just living up to someone else’s metric? Obviously if we were going to spend time working on something we want it to be successful, but maybe more importantly we talked about how we wanted it to be something we were proud of working on. If the absolute worst case scenario is that we spend some time working on something we think is awesome, how bad is that? And anything above and beyond that is even better. So, thinking about a music project from that perspective, what would we want to address? What would we want to do differently?

Turns out, a lot. Continue reading »

Clockwork

Clockwork Orange bar

“Kelly told Alice that she thinks you are cute”

Stereotypical high school grapevine courting. It happened all the time to everyone. Except it had never happened to me. I’d forever been in the role of passing on this kind of message but had never had it directed towards me. Of course I always dreamed about what would happen when my number finally rolled around. When one of the oh so many girls who I stared at for endless hours in school would finally notice me. One of them, which one I hoped it would be changed often enough that it really could have been any of them, but one of them would realize that right there in front of them was the guy that they were dreaming about when they at home singing smiths songs. I never liked the Smiths mind you, but they all did. It would be like turning on a light in a dark room filled with furniture, suddenly everything would make sense and we’d both know it. We’d instantly know everything about each other and understand every thought the other had. We’d do things that people who were dating did like hang out and go to the mall together. We’d hold hands absentmindedly while doing something else – just for the comfort of knowing the other person was there. We’d snuggle up on a couch and fall asleep next to each other while watching a movie. We’d probably kiss. Then we’d have mountains of sex. We’d live happily ever after. It was just a matter of time before all this came to pass, either that or I’d grow old and die alone. But one of those things was sure to happen. It was just a matter of time.

“Who’s Kelly?” I asked.

She wasn’t one of the girls I currently (or recently) had had my sights on, but no matter because she was one of the girls. This was happening slightly differently that I’d expected, but these were variations I could deal with. It turns out that Kelly was one of the girls who from time to time would sit at table during lunch which meant she was at least a friend of a friend. But let’s be honest here, we’re talking about Bradenton, Florida so anyone who was the least bit weird at some point ended up stuck with the rest of us. You didn’t want to be one of the weird ones in Bradenton. You were supposed to want to fit in, to play sports and have rich parents.

Her name wasn’t even Kelly. I’m not changing it to protect the innocent or anything like that, I just can’t remember it. If I really cared about creating some historically accurate document I suppose I could find a yearbook and look her up, but I don’t really care. That, and I threw out all my old year books a few years ago. So for this her name is Kelly, but really it doesn’t matter. This story isn’t about her name, it’s about her and me and it’s about the events of these few weeks.

The next time I saw her I went out of my way to say Hi and be friendly, without being obvious and without letting on that I’d heard the scandalous rumors that she thought I was cute. That would ruin everything. Besides, I wasn’t the one who thought she was cute so I didn’t have anything to worry about. But she was cute, in a weird kind of way. I’d just never noticed it before. Or maybe now that I had this insider information I looked at her differently. I noticed her anyway, which I hadn’t before, so there’s that. She was smallish, both in stature and weight. Her short bleach blond hair was plastered down to her head with some kind of plastering hair product or matted from unwashed grease, I couldn’t tell which. She touched it and looked away and smiled nervously. Her white T-shirt was at least 4 sizes too big and her arms looked toothpicks sticking out of the sleeves. She wore boys jeans with what was probably her fathers belt. Her super pale skin was harshly contrasted by the dark red lipstick she was wearing, or had worn many hours ago because it had turned black and caked up in the corners of her mouth and edges of her lips. I assumed it was lipstick anyway, it might as well have just been remnants from a lolipop or something. She was awkward on every level, and I thought it was fantastic. How had I not seen her before? Continue reading »

30 days

I really like the idea of 30 day challenges. But then again I really like the idea of self challenges in general, which should be no surprise to anyone reading this. I try, fail, restructure, try again – things all the time, but putting a “30 day” cap on it turns anything into a great bite sized goal that suddenly becomes attainable. Do one new things for 30 days? Simple.

I sent out a link to my email list from a friend who spent January detaching from digital stuff when around family. The TL;DR is that he restricted when he would look at email, restricted how much time he’d spend on it, and completely cut out phone/laptop stuff at home around family (mornings and evenings). To very positive results.

I always have my iphone near by and wonder how that translates for Ripley. His parents are always staring at these little devices. So reading Javaun’s account was relevant to my interests and I may try something similar. His jaunt into the 30 day challenge was so successful that he spent February catching up with old friends/family – each day contacting someone new.

This is another great idea that I would love to try out because I’m really horrible at staying in touch with anyone. Truth – if we’re friends and you don’t see me on a regular basis and we talk at all frequently that is huge. More commonly when I stop seeing people in person regularly they just fall off my immediate radar, but when I do see them again I’m excellent about picking up exactly where we left off. Even if it’s been years, when I see old friends I feel like I saw them just yesterday. Not everyone is like that however which has led to a lot of people who I think of as important to me, and important to my life – being out of touch. Of course, the problem with talking about something like that is if I say “hey for the next month I’m going to make a real effort to call people that are important to me but I haven’t talked to in a while” and then some people who I know but haven’t talked to in a while read it and don’t get a call they will be all WTF OMG and shit. And rightly so. Or they could call me FFS. But whatever.

I like the idea of constantly improving yourself and just deciding that you are going to make a change can be scary. Saying you are going to make a change for a short amount of time is much less scary. A week is too short to see a difference, but a month is just long enough to get in the habit and see some results. At the end of 30 days if you like the results it’s probably easy to keep going, if you don’t it’s no big deal because it was just a 30 day experiment to begin with.

I’ve talked about trying to do things every day before as well, and I can tell you that making it open ended is much more intimidating, and comes with an unavoidable sense of failure because inevitably you will miss a day and then you broke the streak. But if the streak is never ment to be more than 30 days. That’s cake.

So tomorrow is the 1st day of March. A new month. A new 30 days. Well, 31 technically.

What should I try?

A year without Facebook

I quit Facebook – quite publicly – in April of last year. Here’s the article I wrote about it explaining my reasoning. It hasn’t been a full year yet, but this week Douglas Rushkoff announced he’s quitting Facebook and several people have pinged me for thoughts so I thought I’d just put them all here in one place. I’m not going to spend any time on reasoning as I think between the two posts I just linked that is more than covered. What I will talk about is what this decision has been like to live with.

The truth is, I’ve hardly noticed it. That’s not to say I haven’t missed anything, rather I havent missed anything I’ve missed.

I’ll tell you when it has been obvious to me – when I try to sign up for a service or website and the only option they offer is Facebook connect. I’m a self diagnosed web addict and terminal early adopter so I check out and sign up for a *lot* of stuff. And in a years time I can only think of 3, maybe 4 times this issue has come up. This was actually the thing I was most worried about and it’s clearly not the issue I thought it would be at all. And actually, all of those examples have been opportunities to tell the founders (though they haven’t always listened) that only offering one way to sign up for their service, and an unreliable 3rd party option at that, isn’t such a hot idea. One of those products that I couldn’t sign up for was just a few weeks ago, but all the others I’ve never heard about again. I’m not saying that only offering Facebook Connect as the way to sign up for their service was suicide for them, but feel free to make that assumption. I won’t name names out of respect for the dead.

It’s also been a little noticeable when using things like Kickstarter – which I use all the time – I can no longer see what my friends are backing. I miss that, not enough to regret quitting Facebook, just to realize I would like Kickstarter to develop their own way to do this in house.

There have been a handful of things where someone has said “Oh, ________ posted this to Facebook, I know you aren’t on it so I’m forwarding it to you.”

There have been a handful of things where someone has said “I posted it on Facebook” and I’ve said “I’m not on Facebook so I can’t see it” and they’ve said “Oh… I’ll post it somewhere else too, hold on..”

Have I kept in touch with all the people who I was connected to on Facebook? No. Have I missed them? Not really. In 2010 I wrote that Facebook made me feel like a shitty friend, in part because it was maintaining (or recreating) connections with people that under any other circumstance would have fallen out of my life. That kid I sat next to in one class in 10th grade. That girl I had a crush on for a few months in 9th grade. That guy that is friends with one of my cousins that I met one time at a wedding or something. Without Facebook normal people in these situations never would have stayed in touch, with Facebook it was nice to connect but we never really had anything to say to one another other than “oh so nice to reconnect” then just flooding each other with random status updates. 100% of those people that I had very weak ties to I lost touch with. But I also no longer feel bad about not caring about their updates, I don’t feel bad that I don’t have more to say to them, and I don’t feel bad that they aren’t a part of my life. So I’m not convinced those loses are really a bad thing.

I will say that leaving Instagram was tougher. I had a group of people that I really liked and it was a way to connect with them that worked. I’m still in touch with many of them on other services though it’s not the same intimacy or personal kind of connection that Instagram was. Maybe Vine will fill that gap to some extent, maybe not. But leaving Instagram was definitely harder, but I do feel like it was the right choice. It’s important to stand up for what you believe in. Someone had to.

But with Facebook specifically, have I felt the need to go back? Not at all.

Not even once.

Am I any less worried about people relying so much on it? Nope.

Do I wish more people would leave it in the dust? Yep.

Do I think people are starting to figure it out? Still up in the air.